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A conversation with Urban Tarman about the history, meaning and future of the 77-year-old radio show about film

There have never been as many audiovisual works as there are today. Film, however, is a special form of directed viewing. It requires concentration. It encourages imagination and empathy, says Urban Tarman, who is creating a show on the Ars Program about the movie Let’s Go to the Cinema.



Show Lets go in cinema since 1946, it has been keeping listeners in touch with film events at home and Worldwide. In addition to following the current film schedule, it also brings news from many festivals and thus giving listeners an insight into current film trends.

In seven decades of operation it is the show changed its name several times, but never the content: first of all it is appointed New moviesthen From the film world, Cinematic chronicle, They saw it on the screen, See you after the cinemabut in the end it does it is renamed to Lets go in cinema and it remained so until today. In 1996 it is received Victor for the best radio cultural program, and it still remains the most listened to program of the Editorial Board for Culture.

During the week when the climax of Ars’ 60th anniversary takes place, we spoke with To Urban Tarmanco-editor of the show Lets go in cinema. In addition to him, they also create it Tesa The soup tree, Matej Juh and Tina Polished.


What it is which came first – the movie or the show Lets go in cinema?First of all it is of course it was a script. In both cases. Kidding aside. Radio show Lets go in cinema it is truly pioneering in this regard: regularly it is on the program of Radio Slovenia, then Radio Ljubljana, since October 4, 1946. This year, therefore, 77 years have passed since we have been monitoring film production on the radio waves in a weekly rhythm. However, the show changed both names and concepts.

How did you start working on the show? Lets go in cinemawhat you have inherited from your predecessors and what maybe adapted to the time in which you create?When I’m from the news agency and of the daily newspaper came to work on the radio, it is was concept placed: critical reflection current cinema schedule and reporting on major events in the world movie with us and abroad. We do not rule out changes and even though we’re making a show about movies that can be seen in theaters, we don’t even overlook certain movies from streaming platform. Sometimes we decide to publish a dialogue review, a conversation between an editor and a critic, instead of a written review read by announcers. Often, the film, especially when it comes to a Slovenian title, is presented by the director. This seems important to me: copyright self-representation adds new meanings to the mosaic of interpretations movie.

How do we watch a movie? And how do we hear about him? Similar to reading and literature, it is here, too, the question of what it means to really watch – a critic looks at a film in a much different way than an unburdened viewer.Looking at the bigger picture: there have never been more audiovisual works in the broadest sense of the word than it is today: every time we open a web browser, tap our phone or turn on the TV, we encounter them willy-nilly. That is why I say that modern man cannot avoid the accumulation of views: he looks and it is watched. We are more and more spectators and we are watched more and more. But the movie it is a special form of directed gaze. It requires concentration. It stimulates the imagination and empathy. If you are i borrow words of German filmmaker Wim Wenders: “If we manage to follow the gaze of another, to see with someone else’s eyes, then we can learn to see.” Critics help us see and to notice something that we ourselves may have overlooked. And that it is always interesting.





What kind it is then in your opinion the difference between consumption and watching in the above sense of the word? Some films are made according to the principle of “fruit” – from them you get everything you need, but without culinary value – while with other types of films this is not self-evident – the viewer has to learn to watch them, enjoy them, appreciate them…The difference it is essential, but the question it is, are we ready for it? More demanding movies – and these are not only the author’s – they demand more from the viewer: after viewing, not only a good mood necessarily follows and making peace with yourself and to the world. Movies are available everywhere these days: from streaming platform to a quality offer of foreign films and documentaries on TV Slovenija. Since lately we have often criticized TV Slovenija, it is must say yes it is the movie offer of our television sister is really good.

In the show Lets go in cinema you we focus especially on the more demanding ones and commercially less interesting offer in the cinema and at festivals. That is why we are sometimes more demanding for listeners and maybe less interesting, but we think it’s important to talk about movies that deserve it, even if they’re not big hits. Of course, we evaluate and we discuss these as well.

Perhaps the advantages of audio criticism lie in the fact that it gives the imagination much more freedom than visual media?This it is advantage of radio. The radio leaves us with our hands free: we can use it to cook, clean or drive the car while listening to it. At work it is special kind of attention: it is not always as holistic as it is when reading, that’s why the content is formatted a little differently: for example, if we don’t understand something while reading, we go back a few lines. A radio listener does not, of course. We must be understandable: both when speaking and when conveying content. In my opinion, all media stimulate the imagination. A lot it is depending on our susceptibility: what it is what triggers a flashback in us? Is it the sound, its color and melody; it is this image, its color or shape; it is this word, its rhythm and sound; or it is that particular mood that all of the above elements trigger in a good movie and will we remember him for all eternity?

Your predecessor on the show Rapa Šuklje it is said that at the beginning there was not so much interest in the film in Slovenia, although it is represented a new kind of art. Among the visitors of cultural events it is considered entertainment and successful propaganda, but it was not ‘sophisticated’ enough to establish itself as an independent art – it lacked it is especially the sound.This prejudice it is formed among educated people mainly because of the post-war offer in the cinema: propaganda Soviet ones and commercial US addresses. A full-length feature film in the Slovenian language it is just born at that time. A historical comparison, however, tells us that it is there was still a lot of interest in the film in the post-war years!

The golden age of Slovenian cinema it is was in the fifties of the 20th century. The climax it is reached with 17 million visitors in 1960. Less than a decade ago it is these numbers were almost ten times lower. Cinema it is therefore became less massive and a more niche form of leisure.

That’s exactly why it is according to her, your task is to “hold the listener’s hand and take him to cinema” – or, in the case of bad films, to turn him away from them?Rapa Šuklje it is hundred maximum wanted to emphasize that for the show we choose films about which it is worth talking about and to always offer a reason why it is worth eliminating in cinema; to invite someone there, because cinema it remains a form of sociability that connects people. This it is our focus. Critics are relentless and their task it is in that they warn us of mistakes and failed solutions. Because instead of one of the less fortunate films, even if promoted by advertising, we can always find a better one.

You say yes it is already in the 1960s, film premieres were too large for one reviewer to cover – we would say that it is in the city, as it is Ljubljana, given the saturation of the global film industry, are there many more premieres today? The number of cinemagoers is declining, more and more people are moving to streaming platforms.Prime Minister it is today certainly less than them it is was in the 60s, when we had several times as many cinemas, but still it is more films than can be included in the show. Viewers have moved to streaming to some extent platformsjust as they moved to television decades ago and domestic video. But viewers also keep coming back to cinema. This instant it is a noticeable lack of cinemas in Ljubljana: although it is opened a new Cineplexx in Rudnik, se it is closed the Coliseum at the same time. A shortage it is especially evident in center cities. If all goes according to luck, he will fill the niche in Ljubljana Kinodvorov miniplex and number of premiers and viewers will surely increase. But some places like it is Maribor, they don’t even have cinemas with art films.


Urban Tarman Photo: ARS/Adrian Pregelj

What it is the role of sound in a highly visual age?Instead of answering, I suggest that readers and MMC readers, if they haven’t tried it yet, listen to one of Ars’s radio games or literary. Answer about the range of a well-shot and shaped sound and the imaginary interpretations of the players will be offered to them by themselves. I myself really appreciate high-quality sound reproduction at home on good speakers and amplifier as in a concert and cinema projection. Experience it is more intense; tone masters and sound designers would say yes it is the only real one – as similar as possible to the one that was recorded or imagined at the time of creation.

We experience sound more physically, spontaneously, it opens the door to the world of emotions. With high-quality sound reproduction with a large dynamic range and with high resolution it is the range of emotions is wider.

You said that you see hope in going back: “when people get tired of the various screens, they go back to public media, to public the radio and to quality printing, to more demanding content and a more sophisticated way of communicating.”I’m not sure that it is this “going back” just as I’m not sure that either it is every technological step forward really like that. Public media, as it is RTV Slovenia cannot simply let itself be dictated by demand, it must create media trends and raise the general standards of journalistic reporting. This it is our task. I may be conservative and biased but the radio and prints are still my favorite.

A big one it is competition too – what kind it is relationship between radio, online platforms and print media – because of the amount of options and information you create each own space and audience, is there any rivalry between you?I don’t feel any special rivalry, rather cooperation. On the radio we often work with MMC and with TV Slovenija when exchanging content. We also help each other in our work with colleagues from other media when the need arises: we exchange ideas contacts and Information. Probably the reasons for the more collaborative nature of our work are also the area we cover – culture, and the character of the people who work in this field.

Source: Rtvslo

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